tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7239577512598038009.post6623371488235818541..comments2024-02-27T01:17:39.925-08:00Comments on The Nine and Thirty Kingdoms: Weird Alignment Ideas IITalysmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02162328521343832412noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7239577512598038009.post-26979343942270894982020-09-18T13:28:00.899-07:002020-09-18T13:28:00.899-07:00Woops accidentally clicked reply in the wrong plac...Woops accidentally clicked reply in the wrong place >.<maxcan7https://www.blogger.com/profile/12504030224075149157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7239577512598038009.post-12920647095806470122020-09-18T13:27:04.185-07:002020-09-18T13:27:04.185-07:00Even though I do think these are different things,...Even though I do think these are different things, the more I think about it, I really like your idea of one axis being "what you do" and the other being "where you do it". It took me a while to process it but the more I think about it the more I like it.maxcan7https://www.blogger.com/profile/12504030224075149157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7239577512598038009.post-68322868770891310162020-09-18T13:14:06.615-07:002020-09-18T13:14:06.615-07:00I don't think it's necessarily identical t...I don't think it's necessarily identical to practical vs. intellectual but that depends on how we're defining the terms. Anecdotally, I've known many people who are highly intelligent, but very grounded/practical in their thinking. Also, someone can be well detached from materialism in this sense and not necessarily be intellectual; and in fact this is the one of the motivations behind labor practices in Buddhism and many other religions- to use grounded effort to clear the mind from material concerns. Some even argue that this is a form of anti-intellectualism, although I personally wouldn't go that far.<br /><br />And while I think that "concerned with current life vs. afterlife" could be an interesting metaphysical axis as well, I don't think that's really the same thing as what I'm saying necessarily, although many of these ideas we're discussing have a lot of overlap, which is ok, it just comes down to what specifically you want to focus on.maxcan7https://www.blogger.com/profile/12504030224075149157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7239577512598038009.post-76697493417052734252020-09-18T13:04:03.822-07:002020-09-18T13:04:03.822-07:00... Although if you strip away the metaphysical/in...... Although if you strip away the metaphysical/intellectual part and interpret "spiritual" in the sense of an afterlife, you could see this as This Life/Next Life, which parallels some historical dichotomies of motivation.Talysmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02162328521343832412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7239577512598038009.post-35231376197942737262020-09-18T12:44:19.584-07:002020-09-18T12:44:19.584-07:00If taken in isolation, maybe. But that's prett...If taken in isolation, maybe. But that's pretty much identical to the Practical/Intellectual axis. If P/I is <i>what you do</i> (solve problems vs. explore possibilities,) then it seems R/W would be <i>where you do it</i>, physical reality vs. some kind of intangible reality.Talysmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02162328521343832412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7239577512598038009.post-85690578842862935712020-09-18T12:36:36.666-07:002020-09-18T12:36:36.666-07:00I might argue that the "real world vs web&quo...I might argue that the "real world vs web" axis could be generalized to material attachment vs. spiritual / metaphysical / intellectual pursuit, or something like "grounded vs. abstract" or something like that. A long time ago I wrote a post along these lines: <br /><br />https://weirdwonderfulworlds.blogspot.com/2018/09/discussion-d-alignment-and-attachment.htmlmaxcan7https://www.blogger.com/profile/12504030224075149157noreply@blogger.com