tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7239577512598038009.post7883483857302859210..comments2024-02-27T01:17:39.925-08:00Comments on The Nine and Thirty Kingdoms: Hardcore vs. CasualTalysmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02162328521343832412noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7239577512598038009.post-76480829661479566212012-01-15T00:44:10.527-08:002012-01-15T00:44:10.527-08:00@Talysman:
"When I've mentioned this befo...@Talysman:<br />"When I've mentioned this before -- including on the Forge -- the response was excuses that people actually enjoy hardcore elements."<br /><br />In my opinion there are many 'unacceptable truths' in RPG fandom, that derive from the fact that people like the idea of an introductory RPG, but don't like the idea of changing anything.<br /><br />In my mind D&D has a similar position to Lord of the Rings. They're both the very personal creation of people with very specific and unusual ideas of what was cool, yet both have been taken as a template for fantasy.<br /><br />That's not a criticism of either D&D or Lord of the Rings - idiosyncratic personal style is what creative people are <i>meant</i> to have - but some fans don't see that distinction.anarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05546197561922726279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7239577512598038009.post-32004935423398913472012-01-15T00:37:15.753-08:002012-01-15T00:37:15.753-08:00I've been thinking about this for a while, and...I've been thinking about this for a while, and I kept concluding that a genuine 'introductory RPG' would be either a board game or a video game.<br /><br />I've often wondered whether 'Talisman', 'Dungeon', 'Hero Quest' and the like were more popular than actual RPGs back in the day.<br /><br />The owners of D&D have often had linked board games available, but I don't think they were compatible ie you couldn't take your 'Dungeon' character and play D&D with it.anarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05546197561922726279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7239577512598038009.post-66416498807467224022012-01-14T08:39:02.276-08:002012-01-14T08:39:02.276-08:00Not that odd; I'm pretty much the same way. Bu...Not that odd; I'm pretty much the same way. But I realize that I'm still "hardcore", even if I'm on the lower end of the range; I was perhaps more hardcore in the past, but got dissatisfied with many hardcore aspects.<br /><br />What rpg designers frequently seem to forget is that designing games for the hardcore is not going to bring new people into gaming. When I've mentioned this before -- including on the Forge -- the response was excuses that people actually enjoy hardcore elements.Talysmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02162328521343832412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7239577512598038009.post-79981878777749002522012-01-13T21:50:49.859-08:002012-01-13T21:50:49.859-08:00I'm the really odd duck, then. A lot of the p...I'm the <em>really</em> odd duck, then. A lot of the personality types in the hardcore gamer community really <em>bug</em> me, but I like thinking about the design and how I'd wrap up my ideal setting when I fall back into gaming. Also, I just want to pick it up and play for a few hours and then move on to something else, but I am only interested in classic D&D, not so much the newer things, or some of the other branches of the old-school family.<br /><br />No wonder I don't fit in! ;-)Restlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04586442439173490257noreply@blogger.com