tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7239577512598038009.post1205326611413137826..comments2024-02-27T01:17:39.925-08:00Comments on The Nine and Thirty Kingdoms: Spells and MiraclesTalysmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02162328521343832412noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7239577512598038009.post-36355646095698701852013-12-17T09:20:22.880-08:002013-12-17T09:20:22.880-08:00I enjoyed this post, and I take your point.
I sti...I enjoyed this post, and I take your point.<br /><br />I still think the word "spell" has connotations in our language now that make this seem confusing. Perhaps we could hold on to your point that "spells" were first religious and keep "spells" for clerics and rename what MUs do as "incantations."<br /><br />My point was not that the cleric performed the miracle, but that the cleric knew the formula which his god promised to fulfill in miracle. The way the western medieval church would have understood that only God makes the bread and wine the body and blood, but God promises always to do this miracle when the form and words are followed in the sacrament. Hence my suggestion to call them "sacraments," or "mysteries."<br /><br />And I do get the Van Helsing connection, of course. But they are called "clerics" not "deeply religious scholars," so . . .<br /><br />I won't argue my point too much here. Perhaps they are both "spells." I like the previous comment. I would call MU spells: "incantations," and clerical "spells," "invocations," that is, the invoking of (a) G/god/s promised power down on a situation.<br /><br />Thanks for this discussion!Tetramorphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07253316716885460459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7239577512598038009.post-53475236006857202452013-12-16T14:17:29.198-08:002013-12-16T14:17:29.198-08:00Epées & Sorcellerie french version calls the w...<i>Epées & Sorcellerie</i> french version calls the wizard splls "sortilèges" and priest spells "invocations" porphyre77https://www.blogger.com/profile/07620350717226228078noreply@blogger.com