tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7239577512598038009.post7286044478721135633..comments2024-02-27T01:17:39.925-08:00Comments on The Nine and Thirty Kingdoms: More on MetagamingTalysmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02162328521343832412noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7239577512598038009.post-19698110025545161542019-11-27T18:30:40.839-08:002019-11-27T18:30:40.839-08:00A most trenchant question, Mr Conley. And I would...A most trenchant question, Mr Conley. And I would posit, the difference between what I consider the OSR mindset vs the video game mindset is exactly that. OSR is about the adventure, a character may triumph or die, gloriously or ignobly. A video game mindset is about the player winning, which posits an adversarial relationship with the DM. Metagaming assists the player in the game more than the character in the adventure. Rod Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12824146866756155345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7239577512598038009.post-30548715921163196702019-11-27T13:04:40.706-08:002019-11-27T13:04:40.706-08:00The question I pose is the point of tabletop rolep...The question I pose is the point of tabletop roleplaying is to play the rules in the sense that we play chess? Or is the point to pretend to be a character having adventures where the rules are just one of the tools to make this happen in a fun and interesting way?Robert Conleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03863009007381185340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7239577512598038009.post-9472907206429756832019-11-27T13:01:35.562-08:002019-11-27T13:01:35.562-08:00It’s very simple: castrate themIt’s very simple: castrate themScott Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12067161332003628237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7239577512598038009.post-9624596131156888352019-11-27T12:18:14.986-08:002019-11-27T12:18:14.986-08:00Your statement that it is an abstract level above ...Your statement that it is an abstract level above the activity itself is spot on. There are many other things that meta- is used for, and it's not controversial, indeed it's sometimes seen as necessary. Metadata is data about data and essential to any good database.<br /><br />So the metagame is a game about the game. It's when the player is using the game to play a completely different game. The common fetish among some people to create different 'builds' of characters is a metagame. They use the game to play a new game at a more abstract level. Lance Duncanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13817319325489613672noreply@blogger.com